Good for the Gander – Good for the Goose

TedNoftall
from: Ted Noftall
Hank and Pat,
In an earlier e-mail I protested mightily about the Manager’s office pimping for  promoters  by arranging secret meetings where
The whole expectation  of such meetings is to reach a consensus in private and do a show presentation for the public at a later date.
 I objected to secret meetings in the case of  Riverwalk  and I object no less now in the case of the YMCA .
If the YMCA   has something they wish to pitch  to  Council representatives,   those representatives  should absolutely listen to that pitch  –   in public,    take comments from the public,    and then make their decision in public.
Council  needs to be  better than this.  They need to tell  the  Manager he is wasting his time arranging secret meetings as they have  no intention of attending  such meetings because of their  commitment  to
The bedrock  premises  of  Sunshine regarding the decisions of elected reps — which is,   the public in an open meeting,   shall be able to see   when decisions  are made, AND   how  those decisions are made.
Ted


From: Rivera, Cynthia [mailto:CRivera@port-orange.org]
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 4:45 PM
To: City Council
Cc: Kisela, Greg
Subject: Meeting with YMCA – Teresa Rogers
 
Mayor and Council:
Teresa Rogers with the YMCA would like to meet with each of you next week.  She is available the following dates/times.  Please let me know if the following schedule would work for you.
Tuesday, July 30
 9:30 a.m.  Drew Bastian
10:30 a.m. Don Burnette
 
Thursday, August 1
2 p.m.   Bob Ford
3 p.m.   Mayor Green
4 p.m.   Dennis Kennedy
 
Cindy Rivera
Executive Assistant to the City Manager
 


From: Ted Noftall [mailto:Ted@TedNoftall.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:59 AM
To: ‘Pat Nelan’
Cc: ‘Kisela, Greg’; ‘Ben Talluto’; suzblonz@aol.com; ‘Hank Springer’; Bob Ford; Dennis Kennedy; don@amlsfl.com; Drew Bastian; Mayor Green
Subject: PIMPIMG FOR PROMOTERS
Pat,
You are not missing a darn thing.  These  by invitation only meetings  are violation of the spirit of Sunshine  and they need to stop now.
It was bad enough when the former Manager was arranging private meetings between Council and the Riverwalk Promoter at City Hall,  but our new Manager  is now doing so at the Promoters offices.  If that location is acceptable  is his private yacht acceptable also ??
If the Riverwalk Promoter  has something he wishes to pitch  to the Council representatives and CRA  members  they should absolutely listen to that pitch  –   in public,    take comments from the public,    and then make their decision in public.
 The bedrock  premises  of  Sunshine regarding the decisions of elected reps  is  that,   the public in an open meeting,   shall be able to see   when decisions  are made, AND   how  those decisions are made.
In this instance we are childishly expected to believe that the Manager has arranged 7 separate meetings   with the Promoter   during which no decisions are  going to be elicited,  AND no information on which  decisions  could be based  is going to be shared.    This is such bullshit.
The whole expectation  of these meetings is to reach a consensus in private and do a show presentation for the public at a later date.
Because the Mayor is conflicted out  with this Promoter any vote to proceed with anything will have to be made on a 3-1 basis.  It may be reasonably assumed that Councilman Burnette will support the Promoter, and that Councilman Kennedy will support anything the Mayor really wants.  But that is only 2 votes…… meaning either Councilman Ford or Bastain will need to sign on for this taxpayer rape to be consummated.
Councilman Ford has made principled decisions in the past and it is time for him to make another one,   AND  that is he will no longer violate the spirit of our Sunshine laws by attending  private  meetings where the city administration  is  PIMPING  for a particular Developer or Promoter.
Ted Noftall


—–Original Message—–
From: port.orange.us@gmail.com [mailto:port.orange.us@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Pat Nelan
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 8:45 AM
To: Ted Noftall; Henry Springer
Subject: Sunshine Law
Ted;
Am I missing something here or is this just a legal way to circumvent the Florida Sunshine Law?
They use to call it “Smoked Filled Back Rooms”     Do they now just call it  ” Schedules” ?


Good morning Cindy,
 
Schedule look fine.
 
Thanks
Chris    chris@ lacour andcompany.com


From: Rivera, Cynthia [mailto:CRivera@port-orange.org]
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 5:56 PM
To: City Council; Ben Talluto (tallutob3@bellsouth.net); suzblonz@aol.com
Cc: chris@lacourandcompany.com; Kisela, Greg
Subject: Meetings with LaCour
I have the following schedule set up for next week.  If the dates/times are not acceptable, please let me know.
Wednesday, July 17
Time                Name                          Location
9:00 a.m.              Ben Talluto                         LaCour Office – 220 Charles Street
10:00 a.m.           Mayor Green                     LaCour Office – 220 Charles Street
11:00 a.m.           Suzette Blahnik                 LaCour Office – 220 Charles Street
12:00 p.m.           Bob Ford                              LaCour Office – 220 Charles Street
 
Thursday, July 18
Time                Name                          Location
1:00 p.m.             Drew Bastian                     City Manager’s Conference Room
2:00 p.m.             Don Burnette                    City Manager’s Conference Room
4:00 p.m.             Dennis Kennedy               City Manager’s Conference Room
 
Thank you,
Cindy
Cindy Rivera
Executive Assistant to the City Manager


 

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