20 thoughts on “Has Greg Kisela Been Harassed & Threatened by 2 Port Orange Officials?

  • August 4, 2014 at 2:05 pm
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    And the beat goes on….

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  • August 4, 2014 at 2:54 pm
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    I know of one, Ted Nofull.

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    • August 4, 2014 at 4:55 pm
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      Somehow I believe Greg is referring to one of them being Ted

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  • August 4, 2014 at 5:17 pm
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    So who would be the second harasser?

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  • August 4, 2014 at 5:29 pm
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    Im wondering the same thing… I can only think of Notfall

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  • August 4, 2014 at 5:31 pm
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    Kisela is worried about something and it is not Ted. Not even Kisela is stupid enough to think that Ted’s suggesting that Council seek legal advise regarding Kisela’s actions constitutes harassment.
    The person and the information Kisela is trying to silence has not been made public yet.

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    • August 5, 2014 at 1:23 pm
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      These people who work in city hall can really put forth reasons for speculation and suspicion don’t they? This is all unnecessary but I don’t think they appreciate the benefits of being forthright.

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  • August 5, 2014 at 9:25 pm
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    Nobody wants to own up to being the #2 suspect ?

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  • August 6, 2014 at 7:18 am
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    Didn’t Kisela say at the council meeting that the harassment and threats were made on E-mails to the city and posted on the blog and made by board members? Read the E mails and blogs. Look for threats by members of boards. I haven’t seen anything that I would consider a direct threat or harassment but that’s just my opinion. I think the claim may have been slightly exaggerated for dramatic effect and to make Kisela look like some poor victim.

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    • August 6, 2014 at 9:32 pm
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      I think he is trying to detract anyone who has criticized him from pursuing him with criticism into his future career. Remember Elgin Jones, Melissa Cowert, and Reginald Clyne Esquire from Fort Lauderdale. Apparently when all those lawsuits went down when Kisela was an assistant city manager in Fort Lauderdale, and after he was reprimanded for the apparent threat that was made to Elgin Jones, Kisela chose to seek employment elsewhere. When he applied for a position in the Florida Keys and was about to be hired. hired, Elgin Jones, the employee that won a law suit I believe for discrimination and threats, pursued Kisela and contacted the Keys Aqueduct Commission and educated them on Kisela’s past. Apparently they had second thoughts on hiring him so he ended up in Destin. I think Kisela wants to leave Port Orange for Destin and at the same time detract any of his adversaries from educating any future employer about his past history in Port Orange. This is just my opinion but I think he wants to avoid having more Elgin Jones types on his tail.

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      • August 6, 2014 at 11:07 pm
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        I think it is almost impossible to find a good city manager. They have all been tainted by their duties of responding to city council priorities and many on city councils are influenced or control by special interests, those interests being financial. And thus team players are sought and valued.

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        • August 9, 2014 at 7:57 am
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          Hank…dead on analysis…probably all city managers by definition become “corrupt” over any period of time …its a politically driven position…..they are employed and serve at the “pleasure” of mayors and councils…typically a group of not very well informed folks with lots of personal agendas…
          …..and even if this city manager starts out with good intentions, over time, expediency prevails…..factor in the very human desire to remain employed…and to avoid or reduce conflict with your employers….who wants to be the bearer of bad news repeatedly…..we are a target rich environment for bad news in this little city… or have to say maybe council and mayor you might want to approach this issue differently……lets get it all out on the table now….lance that boil… ….the drip drip drip of revelation….it will kill you….Richard Nixon learned that back on August 8, 1974…
          And…. it would be easy to forget that this whole municipal government deal is financed by the poor beleaguered tax payer and that for it to work at all… its got to be open and transparent and competent……and that all government answers ultimately only to the People…Port Orange is not someone’s private fiat…no matter how long they have held office…
          ……easy to see how anyone without a strong internal moral compass might wind up exactly where our most recent CM’s have…..disgraced and retired early or employed at a lesser pay grade somewhere else after great dislocation to self and family to move here……… and feeling really badly wronged by circumstances and events….and “hounded” by a bunch of annoyingly vocal “citizen activists” who unfortunately have turned up a series of truly substantive issues that have cost the poor aforementioned beleaguered tax payer a shit pile of money…..
          …but I can see how ..step by step..how this could happen to pretty much anyone…..a real bummer…I can empathize…

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    • August 6, 2014 at 11:08 pm
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      the perception I have is that a lot of people who enjoy buzzing around city hall consider accountability to be af form of harassment.

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  • August 6, 2014 at 10:56 pm
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    Perhaps someone would be kind enough to email a link to this blog to the council up in Destin. I’m sure they would enjoy the saga. It’s all here. Mr. Schafer was correct. Many of the disclosures on this blog became shocking realities. It is not all about negativity. It is about disclosure and transparency. Sooner or later the activists will get their point across to council. They work for the best interest of the taxpayers that elected them. Not their friends, neighbors, or family. And certainly not for their own personal interests. Go get em Ted.

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    • August 7, 2014 at 1:10 pm
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      You are mostly correct incoming 2.
      But I think city hall gets it. That is why top administrators have left, and why it necessary to try and silence the critics of city hall by consulting a lawyer as the Mayor said he has done, and by seeking the removal of Noftall from a citizen advisory board. The old guard is sending out a warning to those who want transparency and reform in City Hall. It is sort of like what dictatorships do. Attack the methods of the dissenters. The hearing room (trial room?) for the opportunity afforded Ted Noftall to refute the council charges against him (if it comes to that) is going to be packed. The city had better be prepared to arrange for seats out side of its hanging court room so that supporters of both sides can be accommodated with TV monitors and audio. Where do I get the shirts we will wear “I support Ted (and the right to dissent).

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