Yes Carol, you are not a well spoken individual.
You may want to reevaluate and stay in Edgewater. We have enough issues to resolve without adding another half cocked, ill informed person to the podium each week.
Dear Carol. I am embarrassed for you and you embarrassed yourself. The last thing we need is someone, like yourself, coming in to our community with nothing to add to the conversation. Ted adds to the discussion, you do not. No one will pay attention to your theatrics.
I forgot who said it, ” I do not agree with what you say but I support your right to say it”.
Bob Pohlmann
The only valid thing that this woman expressed was her indignation for the travesty that Don Burnette with the support of Allen Green perpetrated on Ted Noftall. As Bob Pohlmann has expressed, this woman added nothing intelligent or of value to the conversation. I concur with Bob in this. We need intelligent and well articulated indignation from legitimate stakeholders that add to the credibility of activists like Ted that are vicars of open and transparent governance who stand against corrupt politicians that are entrenched in special interest. This woman is the kind of support that we do not need and her stupefaction belittles the noble cause that individuals such as Henry Springer, Ted Noftall, The Gardners, Bob Ford, and Drew Bastian fight for. Hopefully we can delete her from that list and add Scott Stiltner shortly. Power to the people!
Thanks Stacy Jax…we too agree that one’s method of presentation can be as important to the listener as the content…
My goal is always to be appropriate…and have my facts straight….. and to be somewhat coherent……and yes…..I agree…Ted Noftall is engaged in a noble cause…his goal: clean, transparent, open and responsive government …the Founder’s goals….the way I want our democratic government to function…
..and by the way…
….I failed to mention enough of the measurable objective facts I know about Ted Noftall when I spoke on Tuesday night…
Ted is the father of 3 very nice adult kids….I know his son…personable, well met, a good looking young man, nice to old ladies like Dianne….a hard working kid…works long hours….the affect and achievements of someone’s adult kids always speaks to me of good parenting….they are all gainfully employed and well educated… Ted did something right for a long time with those kids…a very engaged father….as a child whose father left when she was 4 essentially to never be seen again…the father who hangs around, pays the bills, coaches ball, is there for the spaghetti dinners, gets the kids through college and tries to leave something that can be inherited by those children…….that stuff impresses Dianne…
Ted really is a sucker for animals…as someone who has adopted 8 feral cats with all the attendant costs I admire Ted for all he has done for the little guys who live at his shop…cats are great judges of character…particularly feral cats…Chloe is Ted’s feral cat ambassador when you walk in the door of J&M Moving at Eastport…..she is clean, well fed, has no fleas, lives the life of Riley..and adores Ted…a cared for animal….so just ask Chloe…..Ted is a compassionate man…
Ted is a fighter against injustice…all kinds of injustice…..if the thugs are on you and Ted is driving by, he will be there at your back no matter what your politics…..its just his nature……when we were having our struggles with the city Ted appeared at our door and said..”who the hell are you guys and what is going on?”…and he listened and he helped us…what is a good neighbor after all?…..he was a complete stranger to us that day……..I will always be grateful to him….he helped me resolve my problems ..which appeared to be beyond solving…and he hooked me up with my dear and decent and civil councilman, Dr. Bob Ford…another man who stepped forward to help me…and our neighborhood…so…it was a good day for me and Mike when Ted Noftall showed up at 618 Ruth Street….
Ted has an Incisive intellect…he grasps concepts and issues immediately I struggle with even after repeated explanations…….his accounting back ground is extensive…he understands the accrual method of accounting ..he knows the questions to ask…..he did much good work on Audit and Budget and repeatedly asked reasonable questions appropriate to the mission of that board about internal controls and processes of the city and our finance department of Kisela and Saunders that were never answered or answered incompletely……”we will get back to you Ted”….
He is a massive payer of taxes in this city…..business and residential taxes….and he is an employer of about a dozen people…..the classic small business man who is the backbone of this nation and our small city…..so he has skin in the game……no taxpayer handouts for Ted…I like that…I do not like government welfare for developers and Ted is a developer…..go check out what he has built over there in Eastport…..beautiful property…well maintained…..a significant contribution to our city…
Ted has devoted thousands of volunteer hours to this city…just consider even the time commitment of showing up at city council meetings every week….for years…..just sitting there for however many hours each meeting lasts…..who is willing to do that???….not most of us…and Ted not only shows up..he comes prepared to speak to the agenda with fact filled comments or questions…believe me Port Orange..this requires personal commitment…
Ted is an engaged citizen..and an informed voter…..how many of us are? How many have even a rudimentary grasp of the issues that face this city?…..the stuff that happened under Parker and continued under Kisela…the residual mess we have today…..so I would say to his detractors, are you willing to put in even a tiny portion of the time Ted has devoted to this community?….and this is time put in on top of 12 to 14 hours a day running a business…he performs all functions over there at J&M…not just sitting at a desk drinking coffee..he is labor too…..I have seen it..he is always working…
And he is an immigrant…from New Foundland….as the grandchild of an immigrant myself who came here with nothing off the boat back in 1911 and started a business in the Mid west….. I admire that…Ted loves America…as did my Greek grandfather….and Ted wants America to live up to its values..
Ok..that is Dianne’s incomplete defense of my friend Ted Noftall….many more good things could be said….but I regretted that I failed to say at least this much on Tuesday…so thanks to anyone who wades through this and maybe can begin to see Ted in a different light…
Best regards to our thoughtful readers and bloggers,
Dianne Templeton Gardner
to smackdown. did you see the epic smackdown mayor green gave ben tallutto in a cra meeting about buying the funeral home? And then of course there was the abrasive reminder to Drew Bastian that he the Mayor was the chairman of the city council meeting. And then there was the reversal of a promise to the Bonks Landing group to not build a park in their neighborhood . The week after the promise had been given by Pohlmann, the Mayor stated that no such promise still held because the Mayor did not like the attitude of the Bonks Landing group. I asked Kennedy on video to comment about the Mayor’s taking back a promise, and Kennedy said “I cannot comment on that”. Hmm? hank springer
HANK…I have not seen it..can you post that video snippet between Allen Green and Ben Talluto?
Also..did anyone else have a concern about our citizen CRA reps not being there when Buddy LaCour stamped his feet and demanded money from the council?
Understand there was a quorum…spirit of the law concerns me here…
I urge all council members to read the blogs regularly, it is great insurance that none of us will get a big head. This is a good thing, because when we all get up in the morning we put on pants (or dresses) on the same way.The minute that any of us thinks that they have all the answers, Port Orange is in trouble. best,
Carol Stockton,
Being mean will not get you anywhere, You will shut people down and they will not listen to you.
Yes Carol, you are not a well spoken individual.
You may want to reevaluate and stay in Edgewater. We have enough issues to resolve without adding another half cocked, ill informed person to the podium each week.
Dear Carol. I am embarrassed for you and you embarrassed yourself. The last thing we need is someone, like yourself, coming in to our community with nothing to add to the conversation. Ted adds to the discussion, you do not. No one will pay attention to your theatrics.
I forgot who said it, ” I do not agree with what you say but I support your right to say it”.
Bob Pohlmann
The only valid thing that this woman expressed was her indignation for the travesty that Don Burnette with the support of Allen Green perpetrated on Ted Noftall. As Bob Pohlmann has expressed, this woman added nothing intelligent or of value to the conversation. I concur with Bob in this. We need intelligent and well articulated indignation from legitimate stakeholders that add to the credibility of activists like Ted that are vicars of open and transparent governance who stand against corrupt politicians that are entrenched in special interest. This woman is the kind of support that we do not need and her stupefaction belittles the noble cause that individuals such as Henry Springer, Ted Noftall, The Gardners, Bob Ford, and Drew Bastian fight for. Hopefully we can delete her from that list and add Scott Stiltner shortly. Power to the people!
Thanks Stacy Jax…we too agree that one’s method of presentation can be as important to the listener as the content…
My goal is always to be appropriate…and have my facts straight….. and to be somewhat coherent……and yes…..I agree…Ted Noftall is engaged in a noble cause…his goal: clean, transparent, open and responsive government …the Founder’s goals….the way I want our democratic government to function…
..and by the way…
….I failed to mention enough of the measurable objective facts I know about Ted Noftall when I spoke on Tuesday night…
Ted is the father of 3 very nice adult kids….I know his son…personable, well met, a good looking young man, nice to old ladies like Dianne….a hard working kid…works long hours….the affect and achievements of someone’s adult kids always speaks to me of good parenting….they are all gainfully employed and well educated… Ted did something right for a long time with those kids…a very engaged father….as a child whose father left when she was 4 essentially to never be seen again…the father who hangs around, pays the bills, coaches ball, is there for the spaghetti dinners, gets the kids through college and tries to leave something that can be inherited by those children…….that stuff impresses Dianne…
Ted really is a sucker for animals…as someone who has adopted 8 feral cats with all the attendant costs I admire Ted for all he has done for the little guys who live at his shop…cats are great judges of character…particularly feral cats…Chloe is Ted’s feral cat ambassador when you walk in the door of J&M Moving at Eastport…..she is clean, well fed, has no fleas, lives the life of Riley..and adores Ted…a cared for animal….so just ask Chloe…..Ted is a compassionate man…
Ted is a fighter against injustice…all kinds of injustice…..if the thugs are on you and Ted is driving by, he will be there at your back no matter what your politics…..its just his nature……when we were having our struggles with the city Ted appeared at our door and said..”who the hell are you guys and what is going on?”…and he listened and he helped us…what is a good neighbor after all?…..he was a complete stranger to us that day……..I will always be grateful to him….he helped me resolve my problems ..which appeared to be beyond solving…and he hooked me up with my dear and decent and civil councilman, Dr. Bob Ford…another man who stepped forward to help me…and our neighborhood…so…it was a good day for me and Mike when Ted Noftall showed up at 618 Ruth Street….
Ted has an Incisive intellect…he grasps concepts and issues immediately I struggle with even after repeated explanations…….his accounting back ground is extensive…he understands the accrual method of accounting ..he knows the questions to ask…..he did much good work on Audit and Budget and repeatedly asked reasonable questions appropriate to the mission of that board about internal controls and processes of the city and our finance department of Kisela and Saunders that were never answered or answered incompletely……”we will get back to you Ted”….
He is a massive payer of taxes in this city…..business and residential taxes….and he is an employer of about a dozen people…..the classic small business man who is the backbone of this nation and our small city…..so he has skin in the game……no taxpayer handouts for Ted…I like that…I do not like government welfare for developers and Ted is a developer…..go check out what he has built over there in Eastport…..beautiful property…well maintained…..a significant contribution to our city…
Ted has devoted thousands of volunteer hours to this city…just consider even the time commitment of showing up at city council meetings every week….for years…..just sitting there for however many hours each meeting lasts…..who is willing to do that???….not most of us…and Ted not only shows up..he comes prepared to speak to the agenda with fact filled comments or questions…believe me Port Orange..this requires personal commitment…
Ted is an engaged citizen..and an informed voter…..how many of us are? How many have even a rudimentary grasp of the issues that face this city?…..the stuff that happened under Parker and continued under Kisela…the residual mess we have today…..so I would say to his detractors, are you willing to put in even a tiny portion of the time Ted has devoted to this community?….and this is time put in on top of 12 to 14 hours a day running a business…he performs all functions over there at J&M…not just sitting at a desk drinking coffee..he is labor too…..I have seen it..he is always working…
And he is an immigrant…from New Foundland….as the grandchild of an immigrant myself who came here with nothing off the boat back in 1911 and started a business in the Mid west….. I admire that…Ted loves America…as did my Greek grandfather….and Ted wants America to live up to its values..
Ok..that is Dianne’s incomplete defense of my friend Ted Noftall….many more good things could be said….but I regretted that I failed to say at least this much on Tuesday…so thanks to anyone who wades through this and maybe can begin to see Ted in a different light…
Best regards to our thoughtful readers and bloggers,
Dianne Templeton Gardner
It sure was priceless watching Mayor ‘wanna-be’ Don getting told shut up toward the end of Ted’s 3 minutes.
Epic SMACK DOWN
to smackdown. did you see the epic smackdown mayor green gave ben tallutto in a cra meeting about buying the funeral home? And then of course there was the abrasive reminder to Drew Bastian that he the Mayor was the chairman of the city council meeting. And then there was the reversal of a promise to the Bonks Landing group to not build a park in their neighborhood . The week after the promise had been given by Pohlmann, the Mayor stated that no such promise still held because the Mayor did not like the attitude of the Bonks Landing group. I asked Kennedy on video to comment about the Mayor’s taking back a promise, and Kennedy said “I cannot comment on that”. Hmm? hank springer
HANK…I have not seen it..can you post that video snippet between Allen Green and Ben Talluto?
Also..did anyone else have a concern about our citizen CRA reps not being there when Buddy LaCour stamped his feet and demanded money from the council?
Understand there was a quorum…spirit of the law concerns me here…
I urge all council members to read the blogs regularly, it is great insurance that none of us will get a big head. This is a good thing, because when we all get up in the morning we put on pants (or dresses) on the same way.The minute that any of us thinks that they have all the answers, Port Orange is in trouble. best,