Open Mouth Insert Foot
What were you thinking, man…..!!? You’d rehire Warren Pike as Public Works Director?!!
When the editor of this blog took down your recent post in support of that notion he did you a favor. Maybe you can say it was someone else using your name? A foggy mental breakdown? Bad advice from Ernest and Julio? What post?
The reasons for rehiring Pike certainly didn’t sound like the Ted I know:
1. He wasn’t as bad as the rest of the bozos on the bus.
2. Port Orange can’t do any better.
3. He’ll work cheap.
4. He ain’t the man he used to be.
The problems in Port Orange that began to surface in 2012 were a long time in the making and Pike had been around a long time. Saying that someone is the best of the worst under those circumstances is no great praise. Port Orange is, in my opinion, one of the most desirable places to live in Florida (and therefore the nation) so I think we can certainly attract a Director without integrity issues. And, while I think that upper management is often overpaid and usually selected on the wrong set of qualifications I don’t want to hire the “low bidder” as a department head. Finally, I hope Mr Pike is not the man he used to be, but I have yet to see or hear him advocate for honesty and transparency except in so far as it will benefit him.
Anyone else with Pike’s baggage would instantly be criticized heavily by Ted Noftall but I hear you saying in his case that we should hire a competent thief because the only other option is an incompetent thief. We can do better.
Mike and Dianne Gardner
618 Ruth St
Port Orange, FL 32127
“I haven’t committed a crime. What I did was fail to comply with the law.” Former NYC mayor David Dinkins.
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Amen and thanks. The Gardners have not drank the kool aid !
Kudos to the Gardeners for honesty, sincerity, and transparency. Now lets here from Ted Noftall himself. Also, Mr. Nelan will you please demonstrate your credibility by reposting that blog? I think we should at least give Mr. Noftall the benefit of the doubt if just by some possibility that post was an ingenious impersonation of him. I think that Ted Noftall is aware of this uproar by now. Hopefully he is not hold up going into hiding at Pike’s tavern hanging his head in shame while sucking down a few coldies. If this post was a farce we all owe Ted a huge apology and his credibility will soar, but if it turns out to be true then the tea party activists need to pronounce an anathema on him. In the spirit of transparency we are all asking Ted to explain himself pronto!
That was no imposter judging from the verbiage Tony.
Might be best if he claims it was though.
Tony Clifton can be an obnoxious asshole but there is no lie in him. He will call out the mayor’s bullshit, the left wing mayoral apologists bullshit, and the tea party activists bullshit. Kudos to the Gardener’s, Hank Springer and Pat Nelan for calling Ted Noftall out.
I would like to see the same integrity on the part of Allen Green, Sonya Laney, Don Burnett, Dennis Kennedy, and Ken Parker calling out Bob Pohlmann and Warren Pike. I will gladly give them the same kudos for policing themselves . At the end of the day, that may be almost impossible because Allen Green, Ken Parker, and Warren Pike may all need to be called out themselves, and the precarious nature of this presently is who will call them out?
Maybe if Pike cannot force Allen Green’s hand to pressure the new city manager to capriciously reinstate him then Pike will disclose why he feels he has been scapegoated by Green and Parker and disclose his legitimate justifications for being reinstated as public works director. If Warren has been legitimately scapegoated and his forced resignation was unjustified, with reasonable proof I would advocate his reinstatement with additional compensatory restitution.Knowing what I do, but cannot prove I sincerely doubt that Mr. Pike can prove his innocence but I am sure he will be able to produce innumerable spurious character references. Throw in a mayor’s endorsement who is in fear of being outed, and who knows, maybe Port Orange will be able to exceed its past scandals.
I would suggest that if Warren was to truly expose the mayor and Ken Parker’s Improprieties he might reinforce his own indictment and collaborative participation.
This will be very telling because I intuit that the dirty laundry is ready to be subjected to the disinfection that is so desperately needed. No one is sacrosanct and I do not think there is any amount of scapegoating or sweeping things under the rug that can obfuscate this shit. Most people are concerned about their self interest, but when they have their day in court, are they prepared to open up their closet and let the skeletons fall where they may? This would equate to true repentance and a regeneration of consciousness and being as opposed to manipulative self interest.
I think that Allen Green and Ted Noftall need to address this bullshit in a public forum. There is an old saying that in a household you cannot have two bitches residing under the same roof, and any good house should be able to deal with one bitch. Allen Green and Ted Noftall are cut out of the same mold, and they are competing for the status of Port Orange alpha queen. They are so polarized that they hold the city’s commonality, peace, best interest, and synthesis in a state of perpetual discord. However, at the end of the day these soap opera queens want to be the power brokers in the soap opera called “As Port Orange Turns”.
Lets transcend this bullshit and call both of these bitches out. Lets get a mayor and a council in place in the next couple of years that recognizes that Port Orange is a legitimate city and not a southern plantation. Lets methodically recognize value and surgically implement a progressive management team that implements the best of our honest internal talent augmented by external talent brought in to support and graft into that talent to embrace a new progressive paradigm.
I was sweating it. Didn’t know if Warren had tainted our fine city water supply.
Thank you for the great reply and for calling Ted out Mr and Mrs Gardner. Glad you still “get it”
Now back to the main objective at hand – getting Bob Ford re elected.
This old concerned citizen needs a nap.
This situation is becoming more and more ludicrous by the minute. Why keep bothering Mr. Harden with these stupid E Mails praising disgraced ex-employee Mr.Pike and nominating him for a job which has been advertised and will go through the proper hiring channels. This latest one from a Cathy Foreman is a prime example..I believe she is a barmaid at Warrens bar. Do they think that Mr. Harden is an idiot???
Agree. Harden is not an idiot. He is cautious and calculated. No way he does the wrong thing here. Has anyone else noticed that most of the people writing the letters don’t even live in Port Orange? Also, just for fun, go on facebook and check out Cathy Forman’s page. Take a look at her photos and see if you recognize anyone.
A mutual friend asked Warren if he reads this blog.
Warren replied that he tries to but the computer he “obtained” from the city runs a bit slow.
Poor Warren Pike is now stuck in the middle of this controversy .
The usual suspects that support Noftall on this blog are pissed at him for singing the praises for Warren and want no part in returning that has-been to his former job.
While at the same time the crew that supports the Mayor and hates Noftall’s guts now want no part in Warren because of Noftall’s support for the has-been
Say a prayer for Warren so he can find a way out of this dilemma
My question is why was it taken down? I don’t understand why Ted seems to have special privileges and when he says somethings that might go against is “spotless” image then he gets a free pass from the editors.
Ted all I can say is welcome to the monster that you created! Sooner or later the hoards turn on their leader and that has happen. I can’t wait to see what you have to say because this might be the most important post you make! When I say that I believe that the people that bow at your feet and think you are the Tim Tebow of PO politics will either love or hate you based on this one post.
I can only hope that the post will stay up longer than your last one!
Also to Stuck in the Middle Warren is not stuck in the middle. He applied and asked for references so to say that he is the victim here is just plain stupid!
I’m worried about the future of Port Orange. Sonya Laney signs are everywhere! Warren Pike is looking to get his old job back..Are you kidding me! We will be the biggest joke around the nation. I’m hearing the circus music now……C’mon Twisty…Port Orange welcomes you
I’d like to say that there’s a better chance of hell freezing over before Warren would get his position back.
But I hesitate to do so, because this is Port Orange and there is a chance.