Finally! Reform at City Hall


Scott Stiltner

I am very pleased with the new Port Orange city council which met 12 2 14
Congratulations to Scott Stiltner in his first appearance as city council person and congratulations to Drew Bastian as the new Vice Mayor.  In my opinion I saw a new Drew Bastian and it pleased me.
Overall, the whole city council impressed me tonight.
Thank you Scott Stiltner for getting the city council to vote yes on keeping the property of the old police station and to consider how best to utilize the building and property for city use.
Thank you citizen Newton White for pointing out that the state should be involved in the flooding problem of Dunlawton Ave.
Thank you Bob Ford for getting the city council to vote yes on a twofold resolution regarding the Dunlawton Berm Flood Issue. It was 5 to 0 for a yes vote. I will send a personal e mail to Don Burnette for a small qualification as to why he was voting yes.  No big deal, but I want Don to realize that I noted his qualification.
Thank you citizen Noftall for also adding info to the investigation that Ford asked for, that a detailed accounting for money spent and deducted on the berm issue should be had.
Thank you citizen Mike Gardner for pointing out that a perspective of a certain “impropriety” is implicit regarding the whole issue of the berm, the change order, and lack of communication to the city council members of the details in the change order.
Thank you Scott Stiltner for your opinions and comments about the future of the golf course.
Thank you City Manager Harden for letting us (or at least me for the first time)  know that there are deed restrictions on the golf course as to what the city can and cannot do with the city golf course.
Thank you citizen Noftall for pointing out that the city’s comprehensive finance accounting is still lacking from the month of August and on?
The POPD is planning to get video cameras which scan license plates and automatically enter the tag numbers into a data base which will report if the vehicle is wanted for a crime.
The POPD is planning to get video body cameras for its officers.
The best way for me to do justice to summarize how productive and informative this Port Orange City Council meeting of 12 2 14 was is to reproduce video of segments on my web site.  I hope to get around to that, tomorrow afternoon, 12 3 14.
–Thank you all
Hank Springer, posted 1046pm 12 2 14


12 thoughts on “Finally! Reform at City Hall

  • December 3, 2014 at 3:56 pm

    Was quite an interesting meeting. Bob Ford fired the initial strike nominating Drew for Vice Mayor slot. This appeared to take Don Burnette and definitely Mayor Green by surprise. The Mayor attempt s to circumvent this move but to no avail.
    The Mayor indeed struggled throughout the meeting in reading and pronunciation. This however is nothing new. Councilman Stiltner hit the ground running and was well prepared for his new role. Former Councilman Kennedy quietly left into the sunset (thankfully and finally)
    This should be an interesting year and the common citizen should see some better representation and results.

    • December 3, 2014 at 4:26 pm

      During the debate it was not clear who got the council committee seat for the Chamber of Commerce. Councilman Ford’s name was proposed for it but Burnette and Green were desperately trying to hold on to it by the tips of their fingers.
      At the end of the debate who got the “Chamber” committee seat Burnette or Ford? That part was unclear on POG-TV

      • December 5, 2014 at 7:58 pm

        Is this your intellectual assessment, your visceral understanding, your omniscient overview, or simply wishful thinking?

        • December 6, 2014 at 4:51 pm

          To Quai Chan: I don’t think your reply was directed towards me, but for future reference for your info, according to quantum theory I exist in multi universes, and all possible scenarios are contained therein. In this universe I think for the moment, but can change my mind at any passing moment. I cannot speak for any other universes I might be operating in. This one is certainly enough for me to handle. lol – hank

          • December 6, 2014 at 11:15 pm

            In Buddhist phenomenology and soteriology, the skandhas (Sanskrit) or khandhas, aggregates in English, are the five functions or aspects that constitute the sentient being. It has been said that nothing among them is really “I” or “mine”. If you penetrate the illusion of your aggregate sentient being and become one with the unconditioned state, (dharmakaya) you will merge with the unconditioned source (nirmanakaya) of your sentient being and not only exist in, but synthesize and transcend an infinite number of universes and abide in the unconditioned state. This is the place in which all unassailable wisdom emanates from.

          • December 7, 2014 at 8:30 am

            To Quai Chan – What type of drugs are you using?
            All I know is after reading your recent comments I need little bit of those drugs to understand your ramblings.

          • December 7, 2014 at 2:28 pm

            I am thinking that Quai Chan and Hank are touching on some valid considerations that if properly reconstituted and mentally apprehended could throw some light on the disappearing berm issue.
            The observer effect of consciousness says that one of the first ways that consciousness and quantum physics come together is through the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum physics. In this interpretation of quantum physics, the quantum wave function collapses due to a conscious observer making a measurement of a physical system. This is the interpretation of quantum physics which sparked the Schroedinger’s cat thought experiment, demonstrating some level of the absurdity of this way of thinking … except that it does completely match the evidence of what we observe at the quantum level!
            One extreme version of the Copenhagen interpretation was proposed by John Archibald Wheeler and is called the Participatory Anthropic Principle. In this, the entire universe collapsed into the state we see specifically because there had to be conscious observers present to cause the collapse. Any possible universes that do not contain conscious observers (say because that universe expands or collapses too quickly to form them via evolution) is automatically ruled out.
            In a nut shell if there were no conscious observers of the negligence and improprieties of the exclusion of the original elongated berm than not only would its existence in the original design be effectively obfuscated but in a quantum sense it would have never conceptually existed. In essence you could say because there was no consciousness of it than it never had any conceptual reality in this universe.
            Thank goodness for the consciousness and observation of citizens like Mike Gardner, Ted Noftall, and Hank Springer to make certain that this revelation did not slip into another universe. Do you need drugs to wrap your mind around this Mr. Anonymous, or are you one of those that would prefer that the public had remained unconscious about the reality of this?

  • December 3, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    Burnette remained on that assignment, Bob Ford was very kind and let him stay. Overall it was a very good night.

  • December 3, 2014 at 6:42 pm

    That Chamber committee is important to Burnette should he make an anticipated run for Mayor.
    He wants their full support. He did not want to readily give that one up.

  • December 7, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    To Hal 2000. I loved your take on quantum physics and the berm issue. Fantastic.
    It is what it is, or it is what it isn’t? And why do some photons from a fire place bounce off a window and go back to an observer inside the room and the others go out through the windows to an observer out side of the house? Which ones decide to bounce back to the observer inside the room, and which ones decide to go out to the observer outside of the room? And why should the photons care? But first we have to find out why Cypress Head Golf Course has already prepared to shut down for renovations between May and November 2015. Communication no matter how it is sent or received works in mysterious ways. Thanks for the fun.

    • December 7, 2014 at 6:29 pm

      Its all about CONSCIOUSNESS, AWARENESS, and REALIZATION. That is why I am not a Nihilist. At the end of the day it all sums up as SELF REALIZATION. Hopefully the new council will realize that we make our own reality based upon CONSCIOUSNESS, AWARENESS, and REALIZATION as well as the choices that we make on the road to SELF REALIZATION.
      When we become aware of something that needs our honest attention we must make a choice to consciously address the issues with the right view and take the right action instead of whitewashing, blacklisting, and/or scapegoating others for the sake of political correctness and the protection of some personal or political icon relative to the image of Port Orange.
      The unbalanced negative forces (Kleshas) that we generate by covering things up will continue to raise their ugly heads until we go back to the fork in the road an balance the choices that we have made that we viscerally know were the wrong choices and the easy way out. Good luck and lets sit back and watch KARMA unfold.


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