Is The Port Orange City Manager Purposefully Lying To The Citizens?

Is City Manager … lying

.Manager Harden,
Your comment: “I have previously been told by labor attorneys that keeping detailed records of time worked by exempt employees can result in the Wage and Hour Division of the Federal Department of Labor determining that the employees were not, in practice, exempt” is absurd.
We discussed this at the September 9, 2013 A&B committee meeting.  I attached the three ruling from the Federal Wage and Hour division that lead to Port Orange hiring a labor attorney that confirmed that time clocks are allowed for exempt employees.  We should re-lookup the response from the labor attorney in 2013.
Mark Schaefer
3606 Donna Street
Port Orange, Florida 32129
Life isn’t about waiting for the storms to pass, its about learning to dance in the rain.

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4 thoughts on “Is The Port Orange City Manager Purposefully Lying To The Citizens?

  • May 5, 2015 at 1:14 pm

    At the last council meeting the council voted to give city employees an increase in their fringe benefits in addition to the previous salary increases
    At a cost of over $100,000 city employees out-of-pocket medical expenses have been reduced, while for most of us taxpayers that out-or-pocket expenses are moving in the opposite direction big-time.
    What makes it more disgusting is the fact that both side of the negotiating team are city employees that will be reaping the benefit.
    I think some of the councilmen voting for it will also reap its benefit. Why do we let this rape of taxpayers continue

    • May 11, 2015 at 6:33 pm

      New employees (0-2 yrs) got salary increases. Not the long standing loyal employees who have endured and kept the city running during this whole Parker-Kisela, ect. fiasco.They only got a slap in the face and laughed at. Thats fair, right?

  • May 5, 2015 at 2:04 pm

    To: “Mark Schaefer”
    Subject: Fraudulent payroll time cards
    Date: Tue, May 5, 2015 11:35 am
    Please, I don’t think my comment was “absurd”, just outdated. Obviously DOL does not currently hold that position. Thanks for sharing the opinion letters.

  • May 5, 2015 at 2:23 pm

    From: Ted Noftall []
    Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 1:24 PM
    To: ‘Harden, David’
    Cc: Bob Ford (;; Drew Bastian (; Mayor Green (; Scott Stiltner (
    Subject: FW: Fraudulent payroll time cards
    Manager Harden,
    Your response belies your motivation that it is not so much that you cannot install greater accountability for exempt employees, AS you and your senior staff do not want to be subject to greater scrutiny.
    This whole Administrative Leave aka Payroll Theft came to light because the little employees who carry the weight of City operations complained about the higher ups helping themselves to ill gotten gains at their expense of being required their own jobs, and the jobs of those who were AWOL
    As Mark Schaefer has nicely taken you to task for trotting out that outdated standby excuse of some nebulous labor attorney telling someone something somewhere – let me address your other absurdies.
    1) The payroll thefts may well have taken place over a dozen years or longer but the only portion that was able to be quantified at some $ 250,000 was for a three year span when absentee records were kept on Outlook Calendar. Prior to that they were kept in a little Red Book that was never produced as that investigation, as was the case with your recently released I Know Nothing Investigation, never placed anyone under oath with penalty for perjury, AND as is always the case in double standard softball investigations we learned nothing of value. So if employees were only required to repay 2/3 of a grossly undervalued number that was quite a deal indeed.
    2) Your assertion that employees ” through no fault of his/her own, was a benefactor of this unauthorized grant of administrative leave.” is pure baloney.
    If those employees were as innocent as you suggest why didn’t they openly show the time for which they were absent but for which they were being paid as Administrative Leave instead of falsifying their time cards to show they were on the job when in-fact they were not ?
    3) Finally your admission that some three years after this taxpayer hosing biometric time clocks are not in use for exempt employees shows the utter distain ICMA mantra has for taxpayer dollars.
    Your suggestion that ” senior management has to pay attention to what is going on around them. By senior management I mean the City Manager, Assistant City Manager and department heads ” is straight out of a Looking glass Bizzarro world where foxes guard henhouses. A more accurate observation is that it was the former Assistant City Manager and Department heads that were approving those falsified time cards AND our much heralded managers could not their gluteus maximus with both hands.
    It is an abomination that hard working taxpayer monies are being trusted to an unverifiable honor system because you and your senior staff consider yourselves above the scrutiny applied to common folk.
    Ted Noftall
    for responsible government – 2016


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