Amazing. Scott Stiltner and Drew Bastian are voting as reliably with the Mayor as Sonya Laney would have had she been elected. And they are bringing the same level of scrutiny (none) and intellectual heft that Mrs. Laney would have too. Again none. What happened to their promised judgment, discretion, research,and deliberation to protect the tax payer on these issues. We are going back to the days of Ken Parker. I supported both these men in their respective elections. Never again. I am appalled and disappointed.
Poor Dr. Bob Ford, a lone voice crying in the wilderness for due diligence.
Allen Green I am sure cannot believe his good fortune with his new allies of Stiltner and Bastian. And he has treated them both so often with contempt and disrespect. My God. This is sickening.
Thank you Pat for presenting the video section of a city council meeting which gives a crystalline description of the guts of the problems.
It should all be unbelievable but by now we are commanded to believe, believe, and believe? Except for Bob Ford and some citizens like Ted Noftall, the flight from true accountability by the city manager and 80 percent of the city council is lamentable. And I suspect Allen the Great is setting up the framework for a future city manager who will fly in the face of “inspect what you expect.”
Internal controls in check and balances and policy directions mean little if there are no inspections to discover that they are truly being followed and effective. The city has a history of departmental administrators signing off on unverified happenings, and even reporting mis- information to auditors.
Here is a suggestion. Why doesn’t the city council and city manager share the accountability by having a two member inspection team which reports to the city manager and the city council? Get them from outside the city, with no ties to special interests. Pay them good money to carry out effective, real, inspections ordered by the city manager and the city council members. The money paid to such a pair would be a better investment than all the money auditors and consultants have been getting. Such an inspection team reporting to the city manager and city council members will not only verify that internal controls are working (albeit checks and balances are politically stacked, with everyone signing off on everything imaginable) but the information brought back from the duo which is expected to earn its money will greatly assist the other functions of administration: education, planning, evaluation and a reliable internal communication system.
If this duo return inspection reports which turn out to be incorrect or false, have it in their contract that they will be terminated, fired, by direction of the city council to the city manager.
If you have some alternative mode of “inspect what you expect” which by the way is advocated in administrative teachings give it a try.
I have a personal note to councilmen Stiltner, Bastian, Mayor, and Burnette. I take exception that you voted yes to allow the city manager’s position to continue in the way it has brought expensive embarrassments to city government in the past. I portray you as a lamentable disgrace. Inspect what you expect! Indeed, such an administrative principle must be obstinately avoided least you subject city workers to accountability, (poisonous atmosphere of a hostile environment. Lol) and deny them the right to be recognized through inspection for their good work and their working as team members to follow policy directions. Checks and balances my ass!
I can’t wait to vote you four out of the city council. You have a civil service mentality and a politically motivated favoring of non- accountability for the benefit of financial special interests.
Sincerely hank springer
I have followed politics on all levels of government and I have yet to see anyone in politics lose political capital as quickly as Scott Stiltner. I thought the public put together a solid team to run the city with this last election but it is clear I was wrong. I hope the citizens make Scott Stiltner and Drew Bastian one term wonders. They look like Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble on the dias.
Gabe
From my view Bastian is not an independent thinker and has decided to vote whatever way Stiltner votes
Unfortunately Stiltner seems to have run off the rails early in his term and is sadly walking away from many of his campaign pledges
Neither Bastian nor Stiltner appear to proceed from any philosophical core beliefs when they make their “decisions”. A massive understatement. Bastian appears to be struggling with even the administrative housekeeping duties he has now as vice mayor. Requiring prompting from Don Burnette and the mayor. Neither Stiltner nor Bastian are clear on what they are voting on, the ramifications of the topic under discussion or it’s ultimate costs. Painful to watch. We are doomed.
Anyone who has not figured out that Bastian and Stiltner are operating on instinct and intuition in stark contract to Bob Ford’s cerebral prowess is late to the game indeed.
Stiltner and Bastian spent their entire careers taking orders with Bastian even being told when to go to bed and when to get up. Their predisposition to taking orders make them natural followers.
The only disappointment here is that they are following the Mayor and Manager instead of Bob Ford.
Boy Oh Boy its amazing how quick 4 members of council forgets the city problems of our recent past.
We remember just a few years ago when the former Public Works Director created a personal embezzlement account (aka Opportunity Fund) funded by selling alleged city junk.
We taxpayers will never fully learn just how much of new or viable city equipment and inventory were sold as junk to support his slush fund stash.
There are some at city hall that know the exact amounts but they keep that info buried deep under the basement at city hall.
God forgive them for they know not what they are doing
Amazing. Scott Stiltner and Drew Bastian are voting as reliably with the Mayor as Sonya Laney would have had she been elected. And they are bringing the same level of scrutiny (none) and intellectual heft that Mrs. Laney would have too. Again none. What happened to their promised judgment, discretion, research,and deliberation to protect the tax payer on these issues. We are going back to the days of Ken Parker. I supported both these men in their respective elections. Never again. I am appalled and disappointed.
Poor Dr. Bob Ford, a lone voice crying in the wilderness for due diligence.
Allen Green I am sure cannot believe his good fortune with his new allies of Stiltner and Bastian. And he has treated them both so often with contempt and disrespect. My God. This is sickening.
Thank you Pat for presenting the video section of a city council meeting which gives a crystalline description of the guts of the problems.
It should all be unbelievable but by now we are commanded to believe, believe, and believe? Except for Bob Ford and some citizens like Ted Noftall, the flight from true accountability by the city manager and 80 percent of the city council is lamentable. And I suspect Allen the Great is setting up the framework for a future city manager who will fly in the face of “inspect what you expect.”
Internal controls in check and balances and policy directions mean little if there are no inspections to discover that they are truly being followed and effective. The city has a history of departmental administrators signing off on unverified happenings, and even reporting mis- information to auditors.
Here is a suggestion. Why doesn’t the city council and city manager share the accountability by having a two member inspection team which reports to the city manager and the city council? Get them from outside the city, with no ties to special interests. Pay them good money to carry out effective, real, inspections ordered by the city manager and the city council members. The money paid to such a pair would be a better investment than all the money auditors and consultants have been getting. Such an inspection team reporting to the city manager and city council members will not only verify that internal controls are working (albeit checks and balances are politically stacked, with everyone signing off on everything imaginable) but the information brought back from the duo which is expected to earn its money will greatly assist the other functions of administration: education, planning, evaluation and a reliable internal communication system.
If this duo return inspection reports which turn out to be incorrect or false, have it in their contract that they will be terminated, fired, by direction of the city council to the city manager.
If you have some alternative mode of “inspect what you expect” which by the way is advocated in administrative teachings give it a try.
I have a personal note to councilmen Stiltner, Bastian, Mayor, and Burnette. I take exception that you voted yes to allow the city manager’s position to continue in the way it has brought expensive embarrassments to city government in the past. I portray you as a lamentable disgrace. Inspect what you expect! Indeed, such an administrative principle must be obstinately avoided least you subject city workers to accountability, (poisonous atmosphere of a hostile environment. Lol) and deny them the right to be recognized through inspection for their good work and their working as team members to follow policy directions. Checks and balances my ass!
I can’t wait to vote you four out of the city council. You have a civil service mentality and a politically motivated favoring of non- accountability for the benefit of financial special interests.
Sincerely hank springer
I have followed politics on all levels of government and I have yet to see anyone in politics lose political capital as quickly as Scott Stiltner. I thought the public put together a solid team to run the city with this last election but it is clear I was wrong. I hope the citizens make Scott Stiltner and Drew Bastian one term wonders. They look like Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble on the dias.
Gabe
From my view Bastian is not an independent thinker and has decided to vote whatever way Stiltner votes
Unfortunately Stiltner seems to have run off the rails early in his term and is sadly walking away from many of his campaign pledges
Neither Bastian nor Stiltner appear to proceed from any philosophical core beliefs when they make their “decisions”. A massive understatement. Bastian appears to be struggling with even the administrative housekeeping duties he has now as vice mayor. Requiring prompting from Don Burnette and the mayor. Neither Stiltner nor Bastian are clear on what they are voting on, the ramifications of the topic under discussion or it’s ultimate costs. Painful to watch. We are doomed.
Anyone who has not figured out that Bastian and Stiltner are operating on instinct and intuition in stark contract to Bob Ford’s cerebral prowess is late to the game indeed.
Stiltner and Bastian spent their entire careers taking orders with Bastian even being told when to go to bed and when to get up. Their predisposition to taking orders make them natural followers.
The only disappointment here is that they are following the Mayor and Manager instead of Bob Ford.
Boy Oh Boy its amazing how quick 4 members of council forgets the city problems of our recent past.
We remember just a few years ago when the former Public Works Director created a personal embezzlement account (aka Opportunity Fund) funded by selling alleged city junk.
We taxpayers will never fully learn just how much of new or viable city equipment and inventory were sold as junk to support his slush fund stash.
There are some at city hall that know the exact amounts but they keep that info buried deep under the basement at city hall.
God forgive them for they know not what they are doing